|After fretting about the line at the empire state building, contemplating if we would get up early to avoid the crowd, we just gave up the debate and went midday. We were surprised to only wait about a half an hour to travel the 1000ish feet to the 86th floor. Perhaps that is because everyone else looked at the sky and realized we would be standing up there in the rain. Even with the brewing storm, the views from the top were breathtaking. After the trip to the empire state building we took the subway to times square, which has Vegas beat hands down (for us non-gamblers anyway).